Showing posts with label obama care. Show all posts
Showing posts with label obama care. Show all posts

Monday, February 1, 2016

Obama You Crossed The Line

When does a president start looking like a dictator?

When an individual does not take personal responsibility for the rights guaranteed to them  under the US constitution. And ignores the slowly encroaching attacks on their civil liberties, they wind up servants to the state. It never happens over night. It starts with something like health care, now its guns and your rights to own them. You do not look at one issue. It is a pattern of deceit which slowly makes your freedom-not there any more. If you choose not to see the direction, When your government starts telling you where you can live, and work and how much you can make. DON"T BITCH-you asked for your own downfall-Gary



Here's the problem, you take a kind old man who has never really hurt a fly. Doesn't even own a gun anymore. but believes that our way of government is good. You take that system and turn it upside down by a guy who professes to be for the people. Yet he totally violates the entire concept of voting and the power of the people. He ignores my right to choose and be free. He ignores states rights. And uses at best a far out method of writing law -just like a dictator. Oh just shut up old man no one cares. I will not be around to care much longer. YOU WILL and if you do not stop this moronic insanity in office now. Your future is in real jeopardy. Lets say Ol socialist Bernie does get elected. Do you think he will be more fair?. He will probably just continue with a magic pen. And right now-if you own a gun that isn't registered, even if your great grand dad gave it to you-your now a criminal. That's how it starts.....make everyone a criminal first, then lock em up by the thousands.

I always try to be open minded. So here is a task for those who feel Obamas pen is an acceptable way to make law. SHOW ME... historically, any other president who has forced you to spend your money on health care, even if you do not have the money. And then rewrote himself, the gun laws for the entire nation. And by doing so totally ignores states rights.



This is the new FACT SHEET, on the new gun law implemented outside the congress. You will note the superior attitude. Congress won't do what we want so we are going to do it anyway. Its another big lets bankrupt America. New officers, New Hospitals, WAY MORE TAXES AND DEBT.
FACT SHEET: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Make Our Communities Safer
Gun violence has taken a heartbreaking toll on too many communities across the country. Over the past decade in America, more than 100,000 people have been killed as a result of gun violence—and millions more have been the victim of assaults, robberies, and other crimes involving a gun. Many of these crimes were committed by people who never should have been able to purchase a gun in the first place. Over the same period, hundreds of thousands of other people in our communities committed suicide with a gun and nearly half a million people suffered other gun injuries. Hundreds of law enforcement officers have been shot to death protecting their communities. And too many children are killed or injured by firearms every year, often by accident. The vast majority of Americans—including the vast majority of gun owners—believe we must take sensible steps to address these horrible tragedies.
The President and Vice President are committed to using every tool at the Administration’s disposal to reduce gun violence. Some of the gaps in our country’s gun laws can only be fixed through legislation, which is why the President continues to call on Congress to pass the kind of commonsense gun safety reforms supported by a majority of the American people. And while Congress has repeatedly failed to take action and pass laws that would expand background checks and reduce gun violence, today, building on the significant steps that have already been taken over the past several years, the Administration is announcing a series of commonsense executive actions designed to:
1. Keep guns out of the wrong hands through background checks.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is making clear that it doesn’t matter where you conduct your business—from a store, at gun shows, or over the Internet: If you’re in the business of selling firearms, you must get a license and conduct background checks.
ATF is finalizing a rule to require background checks for people trying to buy some of the most dangerous weapons and other items through a trust, corporation, or other legal entity.
Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch has sent a letter to States highlighting the importance of receiving complete criminal history.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is overhauling the background check system to make it more effective and efficient. The envisioned improvements include processing background checks 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and improving notification of local authorities when certain prohibited persons unlawfully attempt to buy a gun. The FBI will hire more than 230 additional examiners and other staff to help process these background checks.
2. Make our communities safer from gun violence.
The Attorney General convened a call with U.S. Attorneys around the country to direct federal prosecutors to continue to focus on smart and effective enforcement of our gun laws.
The President’s FY2017 budget will include funding for 200 new ATF agents and investigators to help enforce our gun laws.
ATF has established an Internet Investigation Center to track illegal online firearms trafficking and is dedicating $4 million and additional personnel to enhance the National Integrated Ballistics Information Network.
ATF is finalizing a rule to ensure that dealers who ship firearms notify law enforcement if their guns are lost or stolen in transit.
The Attorney General issued a memo encouraging every U.S. Attorney’s Office to renew domestic violence outreach efforts.
3. Increase mental health treatment and reporting to the background check system.
The Administration is proposing a new $500 million investment to increase access to mental health care.
The Social Security Administration has indicated that it will begin the rulemaking process to include information in the background check system about beneficiaries who are prohibited from possessing a firearm for mental health reasons.
The Department of Health and Human Services is finalizing a rule to remove unnecessary legal barriers preventing States from reporting relevant information about people prohibited from possessing a gun for specific mental health reasons.
4. Shape the future of gun safety technology.
The President has directed the Departments of Defense, Justice, and Homeland Security to conduct or sponsor research into gun safety technology.
The President has also directed the departments to review the availability of smart gun technology on a regular basis, and to explore potential ways to further its use and development to more broadly improve gun safety.
Congress should support the President’s request for resources for 200 new ATF agents and investigators to help enforce our gun laws, as well as a new $500 million investment to address mental health issues.
Because we all must do our part to keep our communities safe, the Administration is also calling on States and local governments to do all they can to keep guns out of the wrong hands and reduce gun violence. It is also calling on private-sector leaders to follow the lead of other businesses that have taken voluntary steps to make it harder for dangerous individuals to get their hands on a gun. In the coming weeks, the Administration will engage with manufacturers, retailers, and other private-sector leaders to explore what more they can do.
New Actions by the Federal Government
Keeping Guns Out of the Wrong Hands Through Background Checks
The most important thing we can do to prevent gun violence is to make sure those who would commit violent acts cannot get a firearm in the first place. The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which was created by Congress to prevent guns from being sold to prohibited individuals, is a critical tool in achieving that goal. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the background check system has prevented more than 2 million guns from getting into the wrong hands. We know that making the system more efficient, and ensuring that it has all appropriate records about prohibited purchasers, will help enhance public safety. Today, the Administration is announcing the following executive actions to ensure that all gun dealers are licensed and run background checks, and to strengthen the background check system itself:
Clarify that it doesn’t matter where you conduct your business—from a store, at gun shows, or over the Internet: If you’re in the business of selling firearms, you must get a license and conduct background checks. Background checks have been shown to keep guns out of the wrong hands, but too many gun sales—particularly online and at gun shows—occur without basic background checks. Today, the Administration took action to ensure that anyone who is “engaged in the business” of selling firearms is licensed and conducts background checks on their customers. Consistent with court rulings on this issue, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has clarified the following principles:
A person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms regardless of the location in which firearm transactions are conducted. For example, a person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms even if the person only conducts firearm transactions at gun shows or through the Internet. Those engaged in the business of dealing in firearms who utilize the Internet or other technologies must obtain a license, just as a dealer whose business is run out of a traditional brick-and-mortar store.
Quantity and frequency of sales are relevant indicators. There is no specific threshold number of firearms purchased or sold that triggers the licensure requirement. But it is important to note that even a few transactions, when combined with other evidence, can be sufficient to establish that a person is “engaged in the business.” For example, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when as few as two firearms were sold or when only one or two transactions took place, when other factors also were present.
There are criminal penalties for failing to comply with these requirements. A person who willfully engages in the business of dealing in firearms without the required license is subject to criminal prosecution and can be sentenced up to five years in prison and fined up to $250,000. Dealers are also subject to penalties for failing to conduct background checks before completing a sale.
Require background checks for people trying to buy some of the most dangerous weapons and other items through a trust or corporation. The National Firearms Act imposes restrictions on sales of some of the most dangerous weapons, such as machine guns and sawed-off shotguns. But because of outdated regulations, individuals have been able to avoid the background check requirement by applying to acquire these firearms and other items through trusts, corporations, and other legal entities. In fact, the number of these applications has increased significantly over the years—from fewer than 900 applications in the year 2000 to more than 90,000 applications in 2014. ATF is finalizing a rule that makes clear that people will no longer be able to avoid background checks by buying NFA guns and other items through a trust or corporation.
Ensure States are providing records to the background check system, and work cooperatively with jurisdictions to improve reporting. Congress has prohibited specific categories of people from buying guns—from convicted felons to users of illegal drugs to individuals convicted of misdemeanor crimes of domestic violence. In the wake of the shootings at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress also created incentives for States to make as many relevant records as possible accessible to NICS. Over the past three years, States have increased the number of records they make accessible by nearly 70 percent. To further encourage this reporting, the Attorney General has written a letter to States highlighting the importance of receiving complete criminal history records and criminal dispositions, information on persons disqualified for mental health reasons, and qualifying crimes of domestic violence. The Administration will begin a new dialogue with States to ensure the background check system is as robust as possible, which is a public safety imperative.
Make the background check system more efficient and effective. In 2015, NICS received more than 22.2 million background check requests, an average of more than 63,000 per day. By law, a gun dealer can complete a sale to a customer if the background check comes back clean or has taken more than three days to complete. But features of the current system, which was built in the 1990s, are outdated. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) will take the following steps to ensure NICS operates more efficiently and effectively to keep guns out of the wrong hands:
FBI will hire more than 230 additional NICS examiners and other staff members to assist with processing mandatory background checks. This new hiring will begin immediately and increase the existing workforce by 50 percent. This will reduce the strain on the NICS system and improve its ability to identify dangerous people who are prohibited from buying a gun before the transfer of a firearm is completed.
FBI has partnered with the U.S. Digital Service (USDS) to modernize NICS. Although NICS has been routinely upgraded since its launch in 1998, the FBI is committed to making the system more efficient and effective, so that as many background checks as possible are fully processed within the three-day period before a dealer can legally sell a gun even if a background check is not complete. The improvements envisioned by FBI and USDS include processing background checks 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to improve overall response time and improving notification of local authorities when certain prohibited persons unlawfully attempt to purchase a firearm.
Making Our Communities Safer from Gun Violence
In order to improve public safety, we need to do more to ensure smart and effective enforcement of our gun laws and make sure that criminals and other prohibited persons cannot get their hands on lost or stolen weapons. The Administration is therefore taking the following actions:
Ensure smart and effective enforcement of our gun laws. In a call earlier today, the Attorney General discussed the importance of today’s announcements and directed the Nation’s 93 U.S. Attorneys across the country to continue to focus their resources—as they have for the past several years under the Department’s Smart on Crime initiative—on the most impactful cases, including those targeting violent offenders, illegal firearms traffickers, and dangerous individuals who bypass the background check system to acquire weapons illegally. During the call, the Attorney General also emphasized ongoing initiatives to assist communities in combating violent crime, including ATF’s efforts to target the “worst of the worst” gun crimes. These efforts will also complement the following actions announced today:
The President’s budget for FY2017 will include funding for 200 new ATF agents and investigators who can help enforce our gun laws, including the measures announced today. Strategic and impactful enforcement will help take violent criminals off the street, deter other unlawful activity, and prevent guns from getting into the wrong hands
ATF is dedicating $4 million and additional personnel to enhance the National Integrated Ballistics Information Network (NIBIN). The NIBIN database includes ballistic evidence that can be used by analysts and investigators to link violent crimes across jurisdictions and to track down shooters who prey on our communities. In February 2016, ATF is standing up the National NIBIN Correlation and Training Center—which will ultimately provide NIBIN matching services at one national location, rather than requiring local police departments to do that work themselves. The Center will provide consistent and capable correlation services, making connections between ballistic crime scene evidence and crime guns locally, regionally, and nationally. These enhancements will support ATF’s crime gun intelligence and enforcement efforts, particularly in communities most affected by violent crime.
ATF has established an Internet Investigations Center (IIC) staffed with federal agents, legal counsel, and investigators to track illegal online firearms trafficking and to provide actionable intelligence to agents in the field. The IIC has already identified a number of significant traffickers operating over the Internet. This work has led to prosecutions against individuals or groups using the “dark net” to traffic guns to criminals or attempting to buy firearms illegally online.
Ensure that dealers notify law enforcement about the theft or loss of their guns. Under current law, federal firearms dealers and other licensees must report when a gun from their inventory has been lost or stolen. The regulations are ambiguous, however, about who has this responsibility when a gun is lost or stolen in transit. Many lost and stolen guns end up being used in crimes. Over the past five years, an average of 1,333 guns recovered in criminal investigations each year were traced back to a licensee that claimed it never received the gun even though it was never reported lost or stolen either. Today, ATF issued a final rule clarifying that the licensee shipping a gun is responsible for notifying law enforcement upon discovery that it was lost or stolen in transit.
Issue a memo directing every U.S. Attorney’s Office to renew domestic violence outreach efforts. In the event of an emergency, victims of domestic violence should call 911 or otherwise contact state or local law enforcement officials, who have a broader range of options for responding to these crimes. To provide an additional resource for state, local, and tribal law enforcement and community groups focused on domestic violence, the Attorney General is issuing a memo directing U.S. Attorney’s Offices around the country to engage in renewed efforts to coordinate with these groups to help combat domestic violence and to prevent prohibited persons from obtaining firearms.
Increase Mental Health Treatment and Reporting to the Background Check System
The Administration is committed to improving care for Americans experiencing mental health issues. In the last seven years, our country has made extraordinary progress in expanding mental health coverage for millions of Americans. This includes the Affordable Care Act’s end to insurance company discrimination based on pre-existing conditions, required coverage of mental health and substance use disorder services in the individual and small group markets, and an expansion of mental health and substance use disorder parity policies, all of which are estimated to help more than 60 million Americans. About 13.5 million more Americans have gained Medicaid coverage since October 2013, significantly improving access to mental health care. And thanks to more than $100 million in funding from the Affordable Care Act, community health centers have expanded behavioral health services for nearly 900,000 people nationwide over the past two years. We must continue to remove the stigma around mental illness and its treatment—and make sure that these individuals and their families know they are not alone. While individuals with mental illness are more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators, incidents of violence continue to highlight a crisis in America’s mental health system. In addition to helping people get the treatment they need, we must make sure we keep guns out of the hands of those who are prohibited by law from having them. Today, the Administration is announcing the following steps to help achieve these goals:
Dedicate significant new resources to increase access to mental health care. Despite our recent significant gains, less than half of children and adults with diagnosable mental health problems receive the treatment they need. To address this, the Administration is proposing a new $500 million investment to help engage individuals with serious mental illness in care, improve access to care by increasing service capacity and the behavioral health workforce, and ensure that behavioral health care systems work for everyone. This effort would increase access to mental health services to protect the health of children and communities, prevent suicide, and promote mental health as a top priority.
Include information from the Social Security Administration in the background check system about beneficiaries who are prohibited from possessing a firearm. Current law prohibits individuals from buying a gun if, because of a mental health issue, they are either a danger to themselves or others or are unable to manage their own affairs. The Social Security Administration (SSA) has indicated that it will begin the rulemaking process to ensure that appropriate information in its records is reported to NICS. The reporting that SSA, in consultation with the Department of Justice, is expected to require will cover appropriate records of the approximately 75,000 people each year who have a documented mental health issue, receive disability benefits, and are unable to manage those benefits because of their mental impairment, or who have been found by a state or federal court to be legally incompetent. The rulemaking will also provide a mechanism for people to seek relief from the federal prohibition on possessing a firearm for reasons related to mental health.
Remove unnecessary legal barriers preventing States from reporting relevant information to the background check system. Although States generally report criminal history information to NICS, many continue to report little information about individuals who are prohibited by Federal law from possessing or receiving a gun for specific mental health reasons. Some State officials raised concerns about whether such reporting would be precluded by the Privacy Rule issued under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA). Today, the Department of Health and Human Services issued a final rule expressly permitting certain HIPAA covered entities to provide to the NICS limited demographic and other necessary information about these individuals.
Shaping the Future of Gun Safety Technology
Tens of thousands of people are injured or killed by firearms every year—in many cases by guns that were sold legally but then stolen, misused, or discharged accidentally. Developing and promoting technology that would help prevent these tragedies is an urgent priority. America has done this in many other areas—from making cars safer to improving the tablets and phones we use every day. We know that researchers and engineers are already exploring ideas for improving gun safety and the tracing of lost or stolen guns. Millions of dollars have already been invested to support research into concepts that range from fingerprint scanners to radio-frequency identification to microstamping technology.
As the single largest purchaser of firearms in the country, the Federal Government has a unique opportunity to advance this research and ensure that smart gun technology becomes a reality—and it is possible to do so in a way that makes the public safer and is consistent with the Second Amendment. Today, the President is taking action to further this work in the following way:
Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Department of Defense, Department of Justice, and Department of Homeland Security to take two important steps to promote smart gun technology.
Increase research and development efforts. The Presidential Memorandum directs the departments to conduct or sponsor research into gun safety technology that would reduce the frequency of accidental discharge or unauthorized use of firearms, and improve the tracing of lost or stolen guns. Within 90 days, these agencies must prepare a report outlining a research-and-development strategy designed to expedite the real-world deployment of such technology for use in practice.


Promote the use and acquisition of new technology. The Presidential Memorandum also directs the departments to review the availability of smart gun technology on a regular basis, and to explore potential ways to further its use and development to more broadly improve gun safety. In connection with these efforts, the departments will consult with other agencies that acquire firearms and take appropriate steps to consider whether including such technology in specifications for acquisition of firearms would be consistent with operational needs.



Oh My Bama...... Love the latest write ins. If your on aid......... Now your second amendment gun rights are gone. Your considered "defective". Wish the man would stop. He isn't representing anyone doing this shit. :(







Tuesday, January 28, 2014

HEALING THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM


Healthcare system is very sick and dysfunctional. It is going to implode and Obama care is only speeding that up. It is a problem of rapidly rising costs which reflects too much demand and too little supply. When we hear of many trillions of dollars of unfunded liabilities looming over future government finances - think healthcare. If you reduce medical inflation down to the same inflation rate in the general economy then those unfunded liabilities mostly go away. NO plan, whether Dem or Rep addresses these issues.
Any genuine and effective reform they might propose has to be able to increase supply and reduce demand in order to kill the inflation cancer in the healthcare system. Lots of votes can be gained by giving people more access to services but as many votes can be lost by inducing them to reduce their demand. So, at best, we get unbalanced "reforms" that only further increase demand while avoiding offending the medical industrial complex by increasing supply which implies more competition and lower profits. I include a by-no-means-comprehensive short list of changes that will do these things. They are not going to be popular so they will not be done until the system implodes and we are forced to act like adults and make hard choices.
To reduce demand you need RATIONING in one of two forms.

1) There can be external rationing via bureaucracies and rules that limit what, how much and when you receive medical services/treatments. This is how the European single payer systems do it. They are very popular and provide better medical outcomes for the entire population at literally half the price of our current system. They also spend only 10% of the money on paperwork while ours costs over 25% spent on bureaucracy.
2) Alternatively, individuals can ration themselves. This is accomplished by spending their own hard earned money via deductibles or co-pays. If a insurer or government single payer system covers all our costs then demand explodes. We run to the doctor for every little thing without regard to cost. If we spend our own money then we self treat at home, take better care of ourselves, or search for lower priced providers which induces price competition among doctors, hospitals etc. This competition does half the job of stopping medical inflation.
The other half of the equation is increasing supply. A check list for way to do this includes...
1) End the AMA's control on the number of med schools and number of DRs graduating. This is cartel behavior and keeps up prices by reducing the supply of doctors. Invest some public seed money into increasing the number of med schools so as to eventually drive these prices down thru increased supply.
2) Increase supply by ending the license monopoly which MDs have. For example, a few states license naturopathic physicians to practice and prescribe drugs and tests. We need to do this for well trained NDs, homeopaths, ortho molecular doctors etc. and make them part of the insurance system. Let the patients decide what they want rather than have the AMA maintain a monopoly on licensing with government collusion.
3) Offer expedited green cards and licensing for doctors who move here from abroad. This will increase supply and drive down prices. If we can import people to push down the cost of restaurants' wages for their dishwashers then why not do the same for the labor market for doctors?
4) Eliminate or reduce patent rights on new drugs. Most R&D spending on new drug research comes via government funds but the drug companies are then allowed to finalize it and make their own monopoly in terms of a patent on a drug which the taxpayer mostly paid to develop. If a medicine is discovered by public expenditures then the results should be made public domain on the internet so any drug company can make it and sell in a competitive market.
One hybrid reform, similar to what has been done with great success in Singapore, is a catastrophic-coverage version of the European single payer system. The traditional model of insurance is for you to be responsible for routine medical care from your own pocket with the insurer only stepping in for catastrophic expenses that would ruin you financially. This model worked pretty well before it was eroded with lower and lower deductibles. We also know that single payer systems work well in terms of streamlining, getting bulk purchase discounts and covering everyone equally. So, we establish a single payer system which only covers catastrophic medical costs with each person or household paying a yearly deductible equal to, say, 10% of their income. This combines the best features of both. People spending their own money will induce price competition and self rationing. Combined with the cartel/monopoly busting described above, it would make a huge dent in medical inflation. If made universal, it would likely cost less taxpayer dollars than the current hodge pog of medicare, medicaid, veterans programs etc while giving everyone peace of mind and the freedom to change jobs without worrying about loss of insurance. In Singapore, a system similar to this produces similar health outcomes as our own while costing much less than half what we are spending. What's not to like about that?
So, there is a good remedy which neither public or politicians will support because people are aghast at the novel idea of paying for some of their own care and will not vote for a politician who forces them to do so. Politicians will also resist because, aside from losing votes, they will lose campaign contributions from the AMA and the drug companies and the whole medical industrial establishment. Lose votes and lose contributions. What politician wants to support that? So, we wait for the big implosion which draws nearer...

Saturday, October 29, 2011

IMMORALITIES AND THE NEW HEALTH CARE LAW

IMMORALITIES
AND THE NEW HEALTH CARE LAW
    


"Obamacare", WHAT DETERMINES
YOUR HEALTH MORALITY?
I listened to a lady on one of the news
networks explain how her support for the new healthcare legislation was
almost solely based upon moral grounds. I suppose that a lot of People
feel the same way. You know the idea that it is wrong to allow some folk
to go without health insurance.
They call it Obamacare. It's name after
it's most ardent backer.
Let’s look at the moralities involved
in the health care argument as it relates to Obamacare as well as Obamacare's
aim, single payer government insurance.
If the point is that because health care
is something everyone needs, therefore we must all pay for it for everyone
else; then I have a question. Is health care any more needed than Food?
Should we all supply food to everyone else regardless of their own efforts?
You know in the Bible, the basis of the
morality for most Americans, it states that, “if anyone refuses to work,
neither should he eat.” Now according to the Bible, that is moral and
if someone would take their money to do the opposite, that would
be immoral.
What if you have 10 people and 8 of them
did all that they could to earn a living for their family and to have
money to pay the doctors who threat them, would it be moral for someone
to take their gain that they acquired from hard work and pay for the other
2 lazy people? Certainly not! To think otherwise is to say that each of
us own that which our neighbors have earned. This is socialism. This is
redistribution of wealth.
Now not everyone who lacks something
is lazy. Some are lazy but others just made different choices. Others,
like us all, are in consciously or unconsciously chosen circumstances
of the moment.
Children could grow up under similar
circumstances and one chooses to be a doctor and another just want to
have fun and enjoy life and chooses to work for themselves but just enough
to survive comfortably. Another may want to become the largest computer
manufacturer. Each may achieve their desire. Who has a right to take from
the one to give to the other? There would be absolutely no moral basis
for doing so unless your morals emanated from the ideals that brought
about the Soviet Union or Cuba which are diametrically opposed to those
of Historical Judeo-Christian Ideology.
There is a moral basis for each individual
to make an assessment of whom and when he or she must help; Knowing, at
least from a biblical perspective that they are required to make those
judgments.
Now most people should know by now that
in President Obama’s own words, he wants a single payer system and that
the law passed is a great foundation for the same. It puts the control
of the healthcare market into the hands of the Federal Government. In
the law it says more than 2000 times that the Secretary of health shall
do this or that.
It seeks to control what doctors get
paid, what insurance Companies get paid, who gets healthcare and under
what restrictions. In fact under the new law the insurance Companies have
become agents of the Federal Government. This places the Federal Government
into a position to kill the insurance companies over the years. This is
exactly what the President was caught saying in a video in the past.
The President has already begun to demonize
the insurance Companies and few people have the guts to correct him. The
insurance Companies that he spoke about that raised their insurance rates
35 to 45% didn’t mount an effective campaign to say, “Hey the State of
California dumped about 1/3 of the people that were covered by the government
on us and we had to raise our rates.” Maybe they were afraid. Maybe the
media just didn’t report it much. Either way, was what the president did,
without telling the whole truth, moral? No. The ease with which he did
it is astonishing.
Allow me to use you, MR and MS. READER
as an example:
You see people who end up at some point
in life not being able to pay for certain health care procedures and being
in need of charity to pay for them. You decide to look at certain
demographics and studies. You see only a certain number of people get
seriously sick. You figure
out the projected cost of all that care. You know that the average insurance
company makes a profit between 2.2 to 4% on all money collected.
You make an offer to the general healthy
population. You might say," 35% will get some serious condition during their
life. These conditions could cost 10s of thousand to some millions
of dollars, therefore if you and 10,000 others pay my company a certain
amount, I will guarantee that if it happens to you, we will pay for it.
Now in order for our calculations to be correct, it is necessary for you
to tell us the truth about your health and health history".
So as a Company over the years you pay
out millions. You make about 3% profit.
Now what if you are paying out hundreds
of thousands of dollars and find out that the person that you are paying
for actually had cancer when he purchased insurance from you. The person
lied to you. What do you do? To accept too much of this will destroy your
business and endanger the honest people who are also paying you. What
if some politician came around and demanded that instead of insurance
against the possibility of something happening to your clients' health
in the future, you must take all those already sick and pay their millions
of dollars cost, even if they have not paid anything in? Would it
be moral for the President to make like you have done something wrong
if he cannot show that you have?  Would it be wrong for him to force
you to pay all these and not allow you to raise insurance rates enough
for the extra cost? If he restricts you enough, your days as the insurer
will be numbered. To stay afloat you will go along with the government
which now controls you and will regulate to give even less treatment to
spread the care around.
In fact, the system has you by the throat
and will have morphed into the government option with the added effect
of over time putting as many of the insurance companies out of business
as it chooses.
Our President therefore has been immoral
in this matter. It is not that insurance companies have never done wrong,
but that he accused all and did not tell the TRUTH about preconditions
and their relationship to real insurance. Insurance is made against the
possibility of bad health in the future and not a welfare system that
it will become. He has made others to support him in this deception. That
is immoral.
Is it moral to claim that even universal
care takes care of everyone? It is moral only if the statement is true.
Before we look at other immoralities that are involved with single payer
and other socialist health contraptions, let’s look at the system that
we still have but are moving away from.
In the Old Testament the poor were considered
the responsibility of each individual as his conscience dictated. Farmers
for instance, were not to harvest the last corners of their fields but
to leave that for the poor. It was kind of a safety net, which is the
like model to our system before the new law started taking us away from
it. Of course the people were free and also encouraged to give help to
an organization or individuals as they saw fit. 
This made certain that each person understood
that they only had a RIGHT to reap what they sowed and their well being
was first and foremost their own responsibility. This is the modern idea
of teaching people to fish as oppose to constantly feeding them and thereby
harming them, which would be immoral.
In our health care system that the Obama
administration has set on a path of altering from the Old Testament model,
anyone needing health care can get it. They can get it quickly.They get
by and large the same treatments that the rich would receive. The treatment
for cancer is the treatment for cancer.
In a single payer system or even a hybrid
system on it’s way to single payer, there will be problems that absolutely
everybody should already know about. There are all sorts of documentation
from countries which are trying these things. Let’s look at some and see
just how moral those types of systems are.
1. Contrary to our present system where
everyone can get timely treatment, in government controlled health systems,
this is not the case. In fact, we know that in the systems that exist,
long lines and delayed coverage means that the health treatment is not
timely. In some cases people die. They traded health care just to replace
it with health insurance. Is this moral? For those people who know what
is happening every where that this is tried, yes it would be immoral to
wish this on anyone. Many of those who don’t know it don’t wish to know.
The facts are there. Their belief in a Socialist theorical model
that makes everyone equal, even if worse off, is appealing to them.
As was pointed out by By David Hogberg
in an article entitled “The Myths of
Single-Payer Health Care”
“Media in foreign nations are full of
stories about people suffering while on a waiting list. In Canada, Diane
Gorsuch twice had heart surgery cancelled; she suffered a fatal heart
attack before her third surgery. In Great Britain, Mavis Skeet had her
cancer surgery cancelled four times before her cancer was determined to
have become inoperable. In Australia, eight-year-old Kyle Inglis has lost
50 percent of his hearing while waiting nearly 11 months for an operation
to remove a tumor in his ear. Kyle is one of over 1,000 children waiting
over 600 days for ear, nose and throat surgery in Warnbro, a suburb in
Western Australia.
 These are not mere anecdotes. Much
academic literature has examined the impact of waiting lists on health.
study in
the Canadian Medical Association Journal found that 50 people died while
on a wait list for cardiac catheterization in Ontario. A study of
Swedish patients on a wait list for heart surgery found that the "risk
of death increases significantly with waiting time." In a 2000 article in
the journal Clinical Oncology, British researchers studying 29 lung cancer
patients waiting for treatment further found that about 20 percent "of
potentially curable patients became incurable on the waiting list."
 In fact a friend of mine in Canada,
whose wife has been suffering from severe cancer called me from Zurich.
He had to leave a serious business adventure to go back to Canada faster
than he had expected. What he said was unforgettable, “I have to get herto
a private doctor. Here the wait in the health system in Canada will take
another 9 months and she will be dead then!” In the US, she would have
been treated almost immediately.
2. Is it moral if 80% of healthcare cost
is from the 20% who need catastrophic care? These include the elderly
and those with very serious conditions like cancer. These are the first
to die because of the delays cause by an unnecessary system? There is
no reason that this must be other than giving more power to bureaucrats
and making some feel that there is an equality of treatment. To choose
to inadvertently kill off the 20 percent of the very sick to make
the 70% happy and save money is immoral.
The Five year survival rate for American
women with breast cancer is 83.9%. The rate in Great Britain is 69.7.
The five year survival rate in American men for prostate cancer is 91.9.
It is 73.7% in France and 51.1% in Great Britain. Men and women with colon
cancer is 35% more likely to survive in the United States.
Morality is not as the President is known
to have said about some severely sick elderly that, “Maybe they should
just take a pill.” I am not saying that the President and others know
that they are wrong. I am saying that it is immoral for those that know
these facts and there is no reason why they shouldn't know.
3. Is it moral to tell people we must
put everyone under this system because it will be cheaper to cover an
extra 30 million more people with insurance than is covered now, without
rationing? How could it logically become cheaper? How could this not cause
rationing like it has everywhere else? How could anyone who know these
facts live with themselves? How can they do this and leave out 15 million
people that are not covered under the new law, if they believe that it
is immoral to leave people uncovered?
4. All these systems, as has been shown
by various studies stifle innovations that save lives and the quality
of health for all. From whom are  these facts hidden? The information
is publically available. Is it moral to hide your eyes and do harm in
the name of doing well?
When you demonize the profit as being
a motivation for doing evil instead of good, you resign yourself to the
belief that most things accomplished 
are from altruism. This is never more
than a false assumption. The failure to understand this is the main reason
for the failure of socialism. Even the person who believes God exist must
next believe that he is a rewarder of those that seek to please him or
they will do nothing of the sort.
If you take time to look at the early
history of this country, you may be surprised by the number of experiments
into socialism. There were many dozens of societies of about 1600
to 2500 people or more trying varying degrees of socialism. Some went
so far as to have all things in common, even the husbands and wives. That
is every man was the husband of all women and every woman was the wife
of all men. Most of this happened before 1850. Some of the leaders were
extremely popular on both sides of the ocean BUT THEY ALL FAILED.
Most of those people, like the well meaning
people today who want single Payer, including the President, suffered
from an inability to see straight. What is disconcerting is that no amount
of evidence shown turns many of them from this delusion. This begs the
question, is helping people the real reason that they want to do this?
For the first time in the history of
this country the Federal Government demands that you buy a commodity.
This is a violation of the fundamental concept of the freedom passed on
to us from the founding fathers. Yet there are those that it seeks to
exempt from various sections of the mandates. These exemptions go to those
who are supporters of the democrat party.
Therefore, not only are the concepts
involved fraught with immoral judgments but the result of its provisions
promotes immoral dealings and effects immoral outcomes. So, if I
see another person sitting still as the supporters of this legal error,
spout its propaganda of being moral, I will have reason to mark that person
sitting still as someone just trying to benefit from public backlash.
That person certainly will not have understood the matter nor perceived
the foundations of true morality.
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EXCELLENT
blog. You really put it in a way anyone can understand!
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3/28/2010 8:36:38 PM







Thanks
Jan that is exactly what I attempted to do. I think so many people
have not thought this health care change through. They actually think
it will be better fo everyone. It may appear to some to be better
but it will cause the death of many others when it is just almost
fully implemented. Then there is a little thing called Freedom. Americans
are the most particular people in the world about freedom and we should
be. The people who want tofundamentally change our country know what
they are doing. A lot of their followers don't know what they are
really up to.
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3/29/2010 12:21:43 PM







ll
Thanks
for helping me understand better
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11/25/2010 4:51:13 AM





Bill,
this is such a well written blog I hate to comment in disagreement. but
I must. The Declaration of Indepence clearly states that all men are created
equal, with certain inalienable right, and included among these rights is
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. For some the pursuit of happiness
is directly linked to their health, and to others it equals income. I have
worked in the medical industry as an echocardiographer for twenty years
and for many those two liberties are tied together. I have seen many lose
their homes, due to a birth of a sick child. How can that be morality, when
a family has no where to take their child after they have given everything
they have to see them through the healing process. I also know that doctors
reimbursements are already controlled by insurance companies, and doctors
along with hospitals must in advance agree to accept what the insurance
companies pay in order to be providers. Doctors and hospitasl are given
a choice in advance.
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3/28/2010 8:52:17 PM







Colette,
I think you are a little confused. Life comes from God and All are
free to pursue happiness. That doesn't means that wehave the right
to demand happiness from others. Colette, you can run out of food
or any other commodity, but no one has a right to come to yourhouse
or gointo your wallet and steal from you to help someone else. They
take away your right. Now you have the right to give everything you
have away. and America is the most giving country in the world. You
must not have read my blog at all if you think all those immoralities
are ok, just so your feelings of good will to steal from others becomes
the right thing to do. I think you need to reread my blog and this
time consider what I have said point by point. I don't know even one
that is wrong.
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3/28/2010 10:05:06 PM





If
they don't want to do business with certain insurance companies than they
don't have to. When Medicare was first initiated, the medical community
was starkly against it, and now most all doctors accept it. Many currently
in the health care industry are solely dependent on jobs that in a sense
medicare has created. And, I imagine with the addition of so many people
into health care reform many new jobs will be created. Yes there are things
in the bill that many will be in disagreement with, but one thing we must
be in agreement with here in the United States and that is... morally, we
are obligated to care for our own. We all have inalienable rights of life,
liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
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3/28/2010 9:07:09 PM







Wrong
again about medicare. Most Doctors hate it, because it does not pay
them their full cost. Medicare turns down more people than private
health insurance providers. In fact they turn down twice as many.
Colette, if there were 2 systems: 1 system helped save the life of
90 of of 100 seriously ill people and the other system helped save
the life of 70 out of a 100 seriously ill people. If the first system
was free market system and the second a socialist system Which would
you choose? Could you answer that, please. Because that is what my
blog is about. It proves how the world's socialist healthcare systems
kills people. My question to all who love single payer is why they
claim to want to help people so badly but chooses the socialist system
even if it means that have to kill some people to do it? There must
be a reason even if it makes no sense.
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3/28/2010 10:20:41 PM







One
last point Colette, lest you continue to some how think that because
some of us do not want socialise healthcare it means that we don't
want any change. We do. We would like a truly Free market system,
which we have not had in many years. Read my other blogs about health
care and you could see the type of thing that I would like to see.
But short of getting what I want that would lower cost and make health
care more personally controlled, all congres had to do to get insurance
coverage for preconditions, is to make it against the law t turn someone
down....COST NOTHING...not a trillion dollars.....even if they had
added 30 million on medicare, itwould have cost maybe another 100
billion not a trillion. No my friend they are doing something else.
They want the power to control men and women and their money. They
want to take away my rigt to pursue what I want for happiness, to
pursue the happiness of themselves and those that support them. I
mean people in power.
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3/28/2010 10:31:18 PM





Exec
blog I agree..this healthcare will also give the IRS complete control over
your bank acct. ...is this moral....many small business owners will have
to close shop due to the increase in cost....is this moral...many Demi senators
were ask the day after it was signed about different items in the bill....they
didn't have a clue about what was in it...but they voted for it knowing
that a vast majority of the American ppl didn't want it....was that moral...and
Colette is right ...we do have the right to life, liberty and the persuit
of happiness......this takes our liberty away....and the persuit of happiness
is just what it says the persuit...not a given right to it...the doc and
hospitals will be limited to what they can charge....there will be long
lines waiting and not enough ppl working so you will forfit your breaks
and work on twice as many ppl in a day..I am a nurse and my hospital staff
has already been cut.due to lack of state funds..12 hr shifts no breaks..it
will get worse.
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3/28/2010 11:19:35 PM







You
go girl! Don't forget they are also making your medical records much
more available that ever before. This has been a area that People
have fought to keep private for generations. Unfortunately the people
who supported BHO did not understand that to fundamentally change
something means that you will change the very foundations which holds
it up. Watch out.....
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3/29/2010 12:28:12 PM




Many
business owners have already closed shop due to the recession. More
than I can count here in washington. The policies of George Bush have
done more damage than any other president in recent history. That
has become a historical fact.
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9/27/2010 2:38:25 PM


Life
and death choices are made everyday. Morality is not an issue-any more than
our CHOICE to go to war over and over. Doctors let some die-so that others
may live-simple choice. Rangling over a system that hasn't even started
yet is silly. Good or bad at this point is moot- The biggest GOOD THING
no turn downs for pre existing conditions Something cancer survivors,Hotchkiss
disease survivors and a million other diseases will cheer about! When your
insurance drops you-because you are no longer an equitable risk-you will
be happy. Something which happens everyday. Stop whining about change-its
going to happen even if you don't like it. Give things a chance-then fix
it if it's flawed. http://garygraefen.blogspot.com
Reply |
4/6/2010 10:35:01 AM




From
Bill Actually what you are saying is silly! Although I defend you
right to say it. It is a mighty dumb person that does not set down
and count the cost of what he plans to do...I tell you as I have pointed
many have not counted the cost...many other have counted the cost.
I am one that has and point out the information to others. Sorry you
argument doesn't hold water...If it has been proven a system litterally
kills people and a much greater than another (As I pointed out in
the article) Why would someone intentionally choose the killer. But
I tell you this it is always the case in socialism, people love the
system more than they do the people, therefore it is a road we need
to stay away from..
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4/7/2010 6:58:57 PM




hi
bill, obviously you are passionate about health care reform. But it
has already passed. Debate is fine about its merits. But I would appreciate
it if you would reply here on the blog. People who visit my profile
havn't the faintest Idea what you are talking about. Time will tell
how good or bad it is. I do not feel that health care changes are
socialist. There has been no reduction of the right to buy private
insurance. Anyone who chooses to do so still can. Socialism is a form
of government-not a voted on bill which has to do with the options
available. The health care bill could be repealed or modified later.
That is about as democratic as it gets if you ask me-nothing is in
stone.
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4/7/2010 7:10:49 PM




Makes
little difference wither you feel it is socialist or not. Its about
wither the market is free flowing or some group of government bureaucrats
seeks to control most or all aspects of healthcare. There is no question
about it. Every major figure in Obama's life has been about socialism
and he himself has said that what he is doing is spreading the wealth
around. That is socialism, which never works well for the individual.
Maybe you should reread my blog. If you don't see the difference between
freemarket and socialism after doing so the second time, then I know
we can never agree. I have rarely seen anything that changes a socialist.
You see it is NEVER really abou the people with them. They will always
throw them under the buss. I suggest you read again , follow the links,
CHECK OUT THE FACTS, NOT THE FEELINGS!
Reply |
4/8/2010 5:39:16 AM




Obama
was a democratically elected president, I don't think he is any more
socialist than FDR,Clinton, or Jimmy Carter. This propensity to call
any social change, system change, or even taxation, socialist-is fear
mongering. Something republicans seem to have no trouble doing. Rush
Limbaugh promised to leave-he didn't. Reality-when I am of retirement
age I will be stuck with only my social security. I will at least
have something. Social Security was called socialism to. But even
if it is-It beats me sticking some rich guy with a knife for his wallet,
because I am starving to death. The wonderful true capitalists, like
bankers. Have wrought the worst economic recession since the great
depression. Greed and unregulated systems have left millions to loss
of their homes,their futures, and their jobs. I as an individual am
more concerned about all the loss of human life from being in two
wars at once. Something which offends my morality. Damn the Military
Industrial complex-owned by banks
Reply |
4/8/2010 12:10:24 PM





Thanks
for this blog...I too am afraid of the socialized government this administration
is putting in place.
Reply |
4/18/2010 5:31:11 AM





You
are really getting a lot of people reading!
Reply |
4/19/2010 10:10:22 PM





okies
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5/4/2010 10:07:39 PM





I
Enjoyed reading your blog . I Dont listen to all the talk about this subject
because its Confusing but your blog is well written . I Think we should
take care of the elders and women with children . but the women that are
taken care of should be informed not to make it a habit of having children
for us to take care of. I Dont have insurance myself nor would I Ever take
a goverment plan . I pay my own way and only when needed or die . lol
Reply |
6/26/2010 5:24:07 PM





Sorry
Bill But When Bible meets Health Care we must address the Problem with Women
having babies and dead beat Dads not taken care of their offspring . Not
so much of just lazy folks ... but more with how they was raised wanting
it handed to them .. lol Sorry and that was awesome if you dont work you
dont eat . but women have to stay at home with the children and the deadbeats
are not around. so warn her once then kick her off the free health care...
had this been done we would not be in a mess.
Reply |
6/26/2010 5:58:47 PM







There
has always been deadbeats and women that have kids out of wedlock.
My goodness, read the history of the middle Ages. A free Market system
that leaves what the Bible calls gleanings for the poor is the proper
way to handle it. Along with the charities freely given by individuals.
So if a majority in a society decides that they will leave a portion
for the poor, it is good, even if done today in the form of taxes.
Though men often think they know better ways, none that I know of
have worked better that the PRINCIPLE expressed in that Old Testament
advice. As far as deadbeat Dads and Moms, that is another story that
I could write about. The Government agencies are corrupt which deal
with this and are to a large degree set up to collect money instead
of helping to get people on their feet.
Reply |
6/27/2010 7:28:56 AM







Good
Writing but until the church Goes back to work helping the needy and
not themself we have to go with this man
Reply |
6/28/2010 3:47:25 PM







I
agree. Although there are many churches with good programs to help
the poor, I hardly think the poorest Catholic church looks like the
stable in which Christ Yahshua was born.
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7/18/2010 8:21:51 PM





As
A Republican I Do think we should take care of Our Own !! Own Family , Not
Every Tom , Dick And Harrys !! At the Rate we are going Gary Can Kiss his
Social Security Good Bye . Oh What A Mess Bill !!
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8/15/2010 9:49:30 PM





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8/16/2010 7:27:00 PM







Luckily,
we in Slovenia, don't have such problems... NOT! The NWO is taking
care of everything
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8/19/2010 4:39:27 AM





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8/26/2010 12:39:52 PM





very
well said, thank you for posting that blog
Reply |
9/13/2010 6:55:00 AM







.
Thanks
Ursula. I hope people don't forget over the next few years. Because
it will take several years to totally repeal it all. Bill
Reply |
9/13/2010 1:48:17 PM





yuwie,yuwiens
yuwie,yuwiens
Reply |
9/14/2010 10:23:31 AM





I
disagree with your stand and I feel your are being misled. During the Bush
administration, Bush and his buddies had a little club they called 'The
Top Hat Club' -- based on the top hat in the Monopoly game. They played
with our economy like their own personal Monopoly game, and we had a transfer
of wealth from the poor to the rich. Now, one thing I noticed when I played
that game as a child is that once one person started winning, it was nearly
impossible to turn it around. Only one person wound up with all the money,
and everyone else was bankrupt. Game over! That is what happened with our
country. Game over! The wealthy won! Now unless the kid who's sitting there
chortling over all his paper money wants to lose all his friends, who are
going home very ticked off, he has to redistribute the money and start the
game over. Too bad in reality, not the game, people die when the game is
over, instead of just go home and leave the greedy kid to play with his
paper money alone.
Reply |
9/17/2010 10:05:34 AM







.
I
wonder where you got that from. Were you sitting in the meetings where
they plotted to cotrol the marketplace? Of course not. You know nothing
about the market place. Here is a quick lesson. If any President push
legislation to allow all people to keep more of their own money and
to allow them to make their own decisions. THAT MAKES CERTAIN that
no one man or group of men can control the economy. Millions of people
making millions of decisions .....BUSH ON THE OTHER HAND. Any President
that seeks to take over banks, and businesses and set rules that determine
who they can sell to , what they can sell and how they can sell is
the one that is trying to control the marketplace. Health care, Cap
and trade, Bank take overs etc.....that's OBAMA There is NO ARGUMENT
with logical Honest people that this is what generally has happened.
Even Obama, accused President Bush of allowing the free market too
much lattitude... So what I say here is clear to those who want to
know.
Reply |
9/17/2010 10:39:51 AM







.
Now
I understand that those who are in love with Obama because he is Black
or because he speaks great swelling words that they don't understand,
I CAN'T LIKELY HELP THEM. They likely believe in the same marxism
he does. He told people before he was elected 1. that the constitution
was deficient and it should have told what government could do to
/for the people. 2. Wants to reset Foundations on which the nation
stands. 3. Wants to lean toward marxism, with redistribution of wealth.
4. Spread wealth to other pars of the world, Cap and trade. 5. Decide
who lives and who dies, via universal healthcare. And now all they
things he said health care would do, it is doing theopposite. 1. healthcare
is higher. 2. Fewer has insurance 3. More in poverty than last 50
years. 4. Unemployment higher that he said it would go. 5.Marketplace
confused and not producing jobs. 6.Desparaging the USA while uplifting
Molsems And much more that I should not have to mention. Its in our
face.
Reply |
9/17/2010 10:51:50 AM







If
you think W cares about you, you should see the video of him standing
in front of one of his fund-raising groups, saying 'What we have here
are the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite.
I call you my base.' He called Kerry an elite? Hypocrite. George W.
Bush is a fantastic manipulator and he doesn't have a heart for anyone
but his wealthy buddies. They are the reason this economy went bust.
They de-regulated the banks so they could get 'too big to fail.' Obama
did nothing but continue what Bush set in motion because he had no
choice. The foxes were already running the henhouse and nearly all
the hens were slaughtered already. Your original article is about
morality. I find it disturbing when people hearken back to the Old
Testament in contradiction to what Christ Yahshua (Jesus) demonstrated
with his life with such infinite love. He did not charge for his healing
work, did he? Neither do I. Insurance companies should not be in charge
of healthca
Reply |
9/18/2010 10:04:19 AM





Here's
another example of how the GOP operates, and what they really think of all
of us poor people. I seriously doubt that the majority of the people here
on Yuwie, spending so much time trying to build pennies into dollars, qualify
as wealthy by GOP standards. 'John Snow won't have to worry about his retirement.
When he left the csx railroad to become George W. Bush's second treasury
secretary, he took with him a $2.5 million annual pension. The figure was
based on 44 years of employment at csx, never mind that Snow had been there
for only 25 (during which, incidentally, he brutally cut safety and maintenance,
to the point where a jury awarded a widow $50 million in punitive damages
after a derailment—money paid by the taxpayers because of a little-known
law that insulated Snow and his company from the costs of his egregious
judgment). That kind of boost is unheard of for the rank and file, but not
at all uncommon for corporate executives and owners.' May/June 2009 Mother
Jone
Reply |
9/17/2010 10:26:00 AM







.
Oh
Please, be an honest adult. If you really cared about mis-spent money,
you should be up and SHOUTING about all the tax cheats that Obama
has appointed to his group of advisors. or the 10s of million by his
buddies. The big scandle is How The Bush Administration tried for
5 years leading up to the market crash of 2008, to tell people that
the realestate market through Fanny and Freddie could cause that very
thing. Media didn't cover it , except for C-SPAN. Barney Frank, Chris
Dod, Obama, and the Black Caucus accused that Administration of wanting
to hurt blacks and the poor. People like Obama with Acorn, had long
pushed banks to extend themselves by giving out loans that they should
not have. YES IT WAS GOVERNMENT and LIBERALS who forced Banks to do
that...The Truth is not being told. There are C-SPAN clips showing
this, go educate yourself about this matter. I could care less about
what Party a person is in, but I will tell the truth BASED ON FACTS,
not emotions.
Reply |
9/17/2010 11:06:39 AM







Honestly,
I have been trying very hard to get away from politics and simply
focus on my ministry, but when I see the lies and manipulation that
are rearing their ugly heads, I have to speak up. Truth is extremely
hard to come by these days. What someone believes is true depends
on whether they watch Fox news or MSNBC. I chose to vote based on
what I received from Spirit in prayer. God does answer prayer, if
you sit down and create an agreement with Him what you understand
to be 'yes' and 'no,' and you commit obey what you receive. What I
got was that if McCain was elected, we would have either a 3rd war,
or WWIII, I can't safely interpret either way. If Obama was elected,
I was given a sign for 'depression' or 'grief' -- at the time I took
this to mean he would be assassinated. But a month after that, the
banks made their move, in October of 2009, and called in their chips.
It was inevitable. Not his fault. But it was the better choice --
WWIII is game over.
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